The Swiss ML TESTATIKA OR THESTA-DISTATIKA

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This machine exists today in a commune near Bern Switzerland and could have the answers to our energy needs.

The Unit is started by hand by revolving the two disks in opposite directions and continues to move without further input.

This device has only two moving parts namely the bearing races at the centre of the disk.

The disk are made of acyclic plastic upon which are placed flat a series of fifty blade type steel or aluminium sections equally spaced around the middle sections of each disk.

The speed of the revolving disks is about 50 to 60 rpm limited to this by magnetic impulses from the magnetic section on the rim.

To those that have seen this powerhouse in operation it is certain that useable power is being extracted from the environment and some is being used to run the machine.

3 kilo watt unit viewed from front

This is an energy system which relies on the self moving wimhurst electro static generator for the high voltage and somehow the members of this commune have found a way to extract ,amplify and convert this energy to powerful useful levels.

Three kilowatt unit viewed from rear

The Swiss M/l converter is based on a modified wimhurst electrostatic machine.

My people have seen the swiss m/l converter in operation but to do date no one has been able to understand

or successfully reproduced the results as claim by the Swiss commune group Methernith in Linden .

But to one fortunate individual had a visit to Paul B.who is claimed to have had said that if they could understand the above following experiment they would be close to understanding how the device was able to work.(as illustrated above)

It consists of two plates of metal one aluminium the other copper separated by a insulator of some unknown

material could be paper or plastic(unknown)

It also included a horse shoe magnet wrapped with a coil of wire and both ends soldered together.

Paul B placed this capacitor made of the differing metals between the poles of a horse shoe magnet and

then asked a witnesses to connect the plates to two probes of a voltmeter to each plate and to their surprise

found a voltage of seven hundred volts which occasionally dropped in value..

I have communicated with some people how have performed the above experiment with little result however.

WHAT I THINK HAPPENED ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE

PB may have conditioned the insulator of perspex of other similiar insulator by the following means without

revealing what he had had done.

It is known that if you heat perspex until soft to touch and becomes tacky and you then subject the heated mass to

a high voltage field via means of metal plates on each side of perspex mass and leave it there until the perspex is

cool .

Removing the applied high voltage charge

an electrostatic high voltage charge may still be continously taken from those metal plates

something like this also happens with the electrostatic microphones in modern tape recorders..

What part the magnet and the coil and differing face metal plates plays in additional to the electrostatic charge is yet to be determined by yours truly.

Looking at other parts of the machine the pickup fields that don't touch the spinning disks are also made up

of perforated Aluminium separated with a perspex insulated and withcopper behind it.

I would like to know if any one has performed the above experiment and got a successful result.

BASED OF THE WIMHURST MACHINE

The theory of operation of a wimhurst machine is. The disks are of plastic, glass, hard rubber or in one case I saw old phonograph records.

The contra rotating disk causes air molecules to become electrically activated by the fictional movement of the air both disks causes.

This rotating action causes the disks to become continually charged and an electrostatic charge builds up, causing a flash over.

To stop this flash over, a series of foil sections are attached to the centre portion of each disk and equally spaced and back to back with foil sections on the outer sides.

To remove the charge, collection arms are arranged to collect the charge and transfers the charge to a storage capacitor. At 45 degrees to these collection points is a neutralising bar that extends to full length of the disk and has brushes at both ends. A neutralising brush equals the charges on the metal foil position at both positions on both sides.

The neutralising bar on opposite side disk is at ninety degrees to the one for the other side.

The Wimhurst electrostatic generator That you can build for yourself

WHATS IN THE BIG CAN

For many the cans in front of the Testakica have proved to be a bit of a mystery.

From information I have obtained the general opinion is that the above diagram is close to explaining what in the twin cans. It seems to a combination of two copper cylinders interlaid with two perforated alumina screens

In the middle are six or more doughnut magnets upon which are wrapped coils some think they could be bifilar in nature.

Between each magnet there is an air gap made possible by the plastic spacers between each of them.

In the middle of the magnets there is a single spiral of copper or aluminium metal.

It is possible although not confirmed that there is a common ground at the bottom of each can connecting all these elements.

Don't quote me on this but it reminds me of an automotive transformer connected in reverse and shielded with copper and aluminium shielding.

I not sure what roles the magnets provide but tesla used a magnet field in his designs to give a dc voltage output

like modern day rectifiers in some of his AC circuits.

The magnets may also work similiar to work carried out by Captain Hans Coler.

The free energy devices of captain Hans Coler updated

Some facts know about this machine.

Constant Power output 230 volts at 13 amperes for a 3kw rating pulsed DC

Dimensions 110cm wide 45 cm deep 60cm high

43.23 wide 17.68 deep weight approximately 20kg/ or 44 lbs X23.58

Self propulsion by way of the esf flow principle of motorised brushes to revolve the twin disks.

the machine is started by hand revolving the disk after this no additional input power is required.

Once unit is functioning it is not able to be moved with the machine coming to a stop.

The temperature in the area of the machine tends to become cooler.

P.B. seems to be in the area next to or by the machine when first started. Although not always seen a small motor is used to turn both disks at a constant speed in opposite directions in both devices.

Additional Information

The Swiss 300 watt single disk unit

There also seem to be a four inch single disk version that gave out 300 watts but I know only little of this at the moment.

For more information on the photos on this page you may still be able to contact

Here are some Infos from Mike Watson which Marinov told him:

Date: Sat Jul 21, 2001 4:51 pm
Subject: Marinov on the Testatika etc

Hello All,

Some years ago I met Stefan Marinov in London and took the opportunity to question him about the Testatika. As is well known Marinov was a member of the "inner circle" of I think twelve members who ran the Methernitha group in Linden. Marinov was the only one not in on the secret of how the testatika worked. However, Baumann unexpectedly gave Marinov one of the small machines to play with.

Marinov said that the two Leyden jars contained no magnets. The central electrode was a helix of a few turns of thick wire. The concentric mesh were simple cylinders insulated from each other by clear plastic cylinders.

The machine had a single revolving disk with iron wire for sectors. The wire was threaded from one side to the other radially on the disk face as can be clearly seen in the photos of the small machines.

The machine would only start with the disk axis pointing east-west. When operating, if the disk was stopped with the finger there was a steady torque on the disk. If a sheet of metal was held behind the machine the rotation stopped and the rest torque stopped.

There are no rubber contacts or brushes on the disk. A few spins with the fingers would start the machine. The wheel of the machine delivered less than 100mw according to Marinov's estimates. Marinov had an electrostatic motor, and said that the torque on the testatika disk at rest was greater than from his electrostatic motor. The testatika disk revolved 30-40 times slower than that of the electrostatic motor.

During his tests he estimated that the power output was about 100 watts as judged by the heating effect in a power resistor.. Marinov had no test equipment available to do quantitative tests since all these observations were made at Linden, and Marinov did not expect to be shown anything when he visited.

These early machines were built by Baumann when in prison from scrap materials found in the workshop. Baumann also said that the sectors of the big machine were a lightly magnetised special Fe-Ni alloy.

Unfortunately Marinov is no longer with us, he told me that the group would tell him the secret provided his swore an oath of not disclosure. He would not do this because he regarded this as against the spirit of science.

The Methernita group seem to think that the Testatika is based on principles not known to current orthodox science.

What about unorthodox science? It seems to me there is plenty here for fruitful research. The problem is that dowsers and others do detect such unorthodox EM-like fields but no satisfactory instrumentation exists to detect them objectively. Objective instruments do exist but are of an unsatisfactory statistical nature. Quantisation and energy conservation go hand in hand. If an unquantised Electromagnetism exists and given the apparent uselessness of conventional instruments for such fields a new method of detection would be needed.

If Baumann is using such unorthodox fields in the Testatika then presumably he discovered the field first and created the machine after to prove it to himself.

Regarding such fields, what about the Bedini scalar field generator, orgone, Karl Welz's chi generator, Dowsing fields etc. All these point hazily to another unknown power.
Mike Watson

This was translated from a home video made at Mathernitha.

Documentation of the Testa Distatika of amateur video film
Present persons:
1 man of Methernitha (M) and 2 Germans (D) and (T), hardly talks.

M: There is not yet quite finished, there come still segments drauf. I can show these segments here you.

Belong still drauf. Only then it begins to function.
D: Is that magnets?
M: No those are special alloys.
D: Is that magnet foils?
M: One could magnetize those.
D: A magnetized foil is that now and those drauf is stuck here.
M: See that are a 2-metriger and a that are a meter. And 4 KW deliver there.
That is those, which saw to Dr. Winter. Those delivers 4 KW.
D: Those delivers 4 KW?
M: Half of the double converter.
D: Is that a double converter?
M: That is exactly the same again.
D: Why do you build those not parallel, but now more largely in the diameter?
M: We are to, we are to.
D: I mean to build parallel am that for advantage or more largely to be built. What is the advantage?
M: I would estimate stationary, which delivers it approximately 20kW.
D: 20kW?
M: Yes.And there should approximately half of there.
D: Thus approximately 2kW?
M: Yes. There did I see still one (machine there above) in tandem it?
D: I see her there in front.
M: That is in tandem. May I tell briefly or do interest it you not? Can they make smaller or not?
D: Make how smaller?
M: Yes, if they have 4.
D: Well, theoretically one could switch 6 or 8 consecutively.
M: Yes, geht.s more simply if they knew each disk 2 KW of gittern.. They can make that.
But is for a newspaper?
D: No, it really interests me. M: Approximately 60, not faster.
D: 60 revolutions for the 50 cycles per second.
M: Those are the Kondenser.
D: Those are leydnische bottles?
M: (those are the leydnischen bottles, thereby one the voltage get there ago). And from there we take the current away.
D: I.e. as said, the principle functions in such a way, which one the electrostatic field...
M:jawohl.
D: one forms.das....
M: That is, like if it straehnen exactly here has, that it ahead already saw.
D: Is clear, is clear. With what is the energy removed now?
M: The energy is removed then there.
D: To both Poland.
M: and go..... Those are still special (is).
D: Moment,the energy goes now from here where to?
M: That can be done there up.
D: Here above drauf?
M: and there it is strengthened.
D: What is called strengthened to that extent?
M: That is called simple..... There do we quote one.... as say one?
D: Transformer.
M: Transformer.
D: It is converted?
M: No, it is up-changed. We do not need that. We have direct current.
D: Here however is high voltage of like much 20?
M: No, those are 100, 100, 100kW.
D: 100kV M: Yes. That gives such a flame.
D: And goes here above drauf. And that is..... which is still times exactly?
M: That is thing, with what we increase the capacity or?
D: Moment as is increased now here the capacity? As that is made.Spark gaps or which is that.
M: No, there are only magnets and things (coils?) in it. Where we there there....
D: That you do not want thus to say which it are.
M: No I would also not like that.
D: Well. Thus like said thus it goes here........
T: Important!
D: Property of OK ONE. That can be done say here drauf and strengthened it. And then the energy continues?
M: The energy comes then down on the condensers and it is stored there.
D: On the wrong niches bottles?
M: Yes, on the wrong niches bottles. And from there evenly it leaves.
D: For what still times here in front was this section?
M: The section.
D:Yes. M: that is........(lachen)
D: Well. A type is spark gaps.
M: Jas that is it, but I cannot do it you.....
D: Is a vacuum inside.
M:Vacuum, I means......
D: Vacuous. Vacuum is which other one.
M: Vakuu Best Regards, Ken

From the weird science on the other sites section you can downland several small mpeg videos of the machine in operation. I have a 25 minute video of the Swiss ML in operation in the Australian Pal format.

I am continually searching for addition information about this device and if there is anyone who has additional information on it's construction and operation I would be most grateful as I have already built a wimhurst machine ,I would now like to construct a ML machine.

If you have any information on this device and you send it to me it will be kept confidential if you so wish.

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Now it is also clear to me, how the Testatika works.
Baumann has also found out, that he could extract much more energy, when the pulsed HV pulses onto radioactive minerals and rocks.
As he is a mineral collector, he probably tried, how a high voltage pulse could enhance the output of such small radioactive rock or mineral !

As in the big capacitors is said they contain a single vortex wire inside some rock material it is now clear, that this is probably the collector wire for the electrons, which are produced during the High Voltage excitation !

Also the basic experiment from Baumann, with his swing arm modell machine and the charging of the capacitor could be this principle !

A high power electret in the upper arm is fast moved a few times over the stack of weak radioactive mineral sandwiched between collector mesh electrodes and this way this mineral gets a few High Voltage induction pulses, thus it is stimulated to release many high speed electrons, which charge up the mesh collectors and thus the capacitor !
This probably is also true for the horseshoe-magnets, which have these mineral plates with metal collector electrodes stacked up !
These minerals must be weakly radioactive and if the magnet field is modulated or the electrodes a fed with High voltage pulses, they will release beta electrons and charge up the electrodes around them...

I also once heard, that inside the background tubes there are many stones and minerals inside there, this is probably also a container for weak radioactive stones and rocks which are pulses in this sort of capacitor to release more energy than fed into them !

Also the Morray converter was a RF stimulated diode amplifier, with radiocatively doped diodes with Uran and other radioactive materials !

So all in all we can say, that all of these devices use the power of stimulated radioactivity to get this huge power output !

It seems the new company Betavoltic.com has just found a very safe way to produce and release this power from very weak K-40 radioactive material !

So not much mystery for me anymore with the Morray and Testatika devices

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Movies

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Testakica demo
more of the Testakica demo
close up of lit light bulb of the Testakica
small single disk testakica device
Large testakica device
large testakica bulb lighting

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I have for sale a 3 hour Pal TV video showing the Swiss Ml machine working along with other free energy related devices for 39 Dollars Air Post Paid.

Payment please in Bank Draft for Australian Dollars on an Australian bank please or an equal amount in yor Local cash equivalent.

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